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THIS WEBSITE COMBINES THE FOLLOWING WEBSITES
THE BRIGHTON A.S.L.E.&F., THE BRIGHTON MOTIVE POWER DEPOTS
& THE SUSSEX MOTIVE POWER WEBSITES

WHICH EXPLAINS THE EVOLUTION OF THE FOOTPLATE GRADES AND THE
HISTORY OF THEIR TRADE UNIONS AND THE STRUGGLES TO IMPROVE
THEIR WORKING LIVES

BRIGHTON SECONDMEN

Matthew Cole standing in front of a class 73 at Lavant stone quarry, holding the Fishbourne Crossing - Lavant staff, c1981.

The photo gallery below Matthew Coles is seen on a class 56 (left), and a class 33 (right) c1984

Left - Right: Peter Mantell, Ronnie Abel & John Blaber c1980

Right:

Dave Morgan

receiving his (20th) birthday present from the lads of B'ton M.T. (03.02.1988)

CHRIS STRATTON COLLECTION

Chris Stratton was a Secondman at Brighton from about March 1975 until October 1977, when he emigrated to New Zealand. I had a six month spell at Hither Green late 75/early 76 in order to gain my appointment as Secondman.

MY railway career may have lasted less than three years, but those times were some of the happiest in my working life. I do sometimes wonder what may have been had I remained at Brighton. It was an agonising decision to leave a job I enjoyed, even though the hours were awful and the pay equally awful.

After an 18 month spell in New Zealand, I moved to Australia where I continued my railway career for several years. I was a passed Fireman at the Eveleigh Depot in Sydney but left the industry in 1985. Modernisation and electrification of the New South Wales newwork combined with a hatchet man running the authority meant the smart thing to do was to take the redundancy package.

Brighton Secondmen let loose in Scotland

Left ~ Right: Nick Bullimore (Driver at Bognor Regis & Blyth) Danny Lodge & Ian Shackleton.

Pictured at Inverness Depot April 1976

Mark Organ c1981

(The Flying Organ) (The Flying Organ)

Sandra Baldwin c1981

Sandra was the first woman to enter the footplate grade of Secondman at Brighton M.T. on the 18.06.1979. Sandra left the railway industry in c1982

Left - Right: Karen Harrison, Celine Rocchia, Ann Winter, Sarah Wainwright, Tina Whybrow, Sandra Baldwin

and Tricia Roche c1980.

COLIN MARSDEN COLECTION

Front Left ~ Right Richard Williams (Brighton,) Ann Winter (now Ross (Norwood),

Les ? (depot unknown), Tina Whybrow (Hither Green)

Background Maurice Wales (Brighton EMUT), unknown & unknown

Dave Mulpeter Collection

Dave Mulpeter c1987

Paul Horan

Ian Osborne

Ian Simmons on 73003 whilst propelling back into Hove Yard

Lee Ayling Collection

Left ~ Right: Steve "Shreddie" Simmons, Bob Maxim & Dave Rees (Norwood).

Steve Blaikie

Neal Cowdrey in Hove Yard c1983

Above Tim Schofield

at Angmering with the Ardingly Empty wagons en-route back to Westbury 24.04.1986

Above Tim Schofield left in c1985 in front of 73101 and

Above Right: Tim Schofield at Crawley New Yard c1986 on a Class 73 (J.A. E.D.L.)

THE WRONG TROUSERS ?

Tight fitting trouser legs! Train Crew Manager Frank Heritage really had the hump as did his traction inspector John Norton. Johnny Saunders stood up for me though, instructing Norton to 'Get off our engine & don't start any of that nonsense here ' when Norton decided to have a go one day !

curtsey of Dave Lace

MP12 TRAINING COURSES

David Dixon Collection

MP12 course, Oct 1979 to April 1980.

Back row L-R, Neil (from Tonbridge), Dave Dixon (Basingstoke), John Robinson (Eastleigh) & Gerry Ellard (Tunbridge Wells West), Front L-R Paul Teti (Brighton), Pete Roberts (Instructor) & Pete Joshua (Eastleigh)

The M.P.12 Course of 1981/82

Alan Brindley (Eastleigh), Steve Bailey (Ashford), Graham Gardener (Ashford), Garry Sargent (Brighton), Dave Penny (Redhill (now at Brighton), Charlie Bagley (Dover), John? (Sittingbourne), Pete Austen (Faversham) and Steve West (Woking).

Andy Eggleden Collection

MP12 class in 1986,

Back row second from right

Mick Doyle

M.P. 12 Course 1988

(The Last MP12 Course at Waterloo south-Side)

Back Row L~R: Andrew Hurtley(depot ?), Barry Whitfield (Depot ?), Cliff Fletcher (depot ?), Mick Scott (Vic. E.), Unknown Trevor Parsons, Steve Simmonds

Front Row L~R: Colin Easton & Alan ? (Depot)

TRACTION TRAINEES COURSES

Traction Trainees Course 1974

Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, Bill Rutter & Mac McCabe (Brighton)

Traction Trainee Course May 1985

Brighton Traction Trainees

Tim Schofield (3rd from left) & Chris Edmunds (2nd from Right)

Traction Trainee Course at Basingstoke 1986

Rear L ~ R: Unknown (1), Unknown (2), Paul Miles (Depot?), Mick ? (Depot?), Colin Easton, Ian Chivers, Eric Christian (Training School),

Front L~ R: Unknown (3), Unknown (4), Unknown (5), Maurice Graham (Depot?)

Paul Green,Kev Ederle and Nick Hood Mick Scott

KNOWN BRIGHTON M.T. FIREMEN/SECONDMEN/PASSED MEN WHO WERE IN THE GRADE BETWEEN 1964 -1988

SENIORITY SHEET

NAME SENIORITY

HEYWOOD J. * 05.05.47 (PUT BCK S’MAN EX N.ABBT JAN 69)

GRAY, M.J. JOE 22.09.53 (PUT BACK DRIVER)

HALL, B. BRIAN 28.12.55 (APPOINTED AUG 66)

BOWLES C.E. * COLIN 07.03.53 (RDNT EX EBNE NOV 68))

WATKINS A.J.* 08.08.55 (RDNT EX W’CESTER JAN 69)

BARTHOLOMEW F. FRED 03.04.56 (APPOINTED SEPT 66)

PUMFREY D.T. DAVID 25.06.56 (APPIONTED JUN 67)

COOMBER DAVID 13.11.56 (APPOINTED JUN 67)

BROOKSHAW JOHN 04.03.57 (APPOINTED NOV 67)

ANGEL D.E. DAVID 28.10.57 (APPOINTED JAN 68)

HAWKINS M.D. MICK 11.11.57 (APPOINTED JAN 68)

WHITE B. BRIAN 29.01.57 (APPOINTED AUG 67)

CONSTABLE C. CHARLIE 09.03.59 (APPOINTED APR 68)

TAYLOR J. JOHN 09.03.59

OSBORNE J. JOHN 11.05.59

JUPP D. DAVID 10.06.59

BROWN B BARRY 10.08.59 (OCT 67 MOVED TBGS)

WALTON J. * 31.08.59 (NOV 68 MOVED TO H.GN)

MacKENZIE BILL 20.11.59 (MOVED TBDGS)

PARSON T. TERRY ?? ?? ??

CONSTABLE ROD 07.03.60 (MAY 66 MOVED TO RHLL)

GILLIAM M.J. MICK 15.11.60 (JAN 67 MOVED COULD N.)

BASSETT M.C. MICK 14.04.60 (MAY 68 MOVED TO RHLL)

LEE T.R. 25.04.60 (MAY66 (RHLL & LHM )

COSHAM P. 08.08.60 (APR 68 MOVED TO TBDGS)

KITCHENER S.R. * REX 16.01.61 (PUT BCK S’MAN EX R’DING JAN 69)

BREEDS I.C. IAN 06.02.61 (APR 68 MOVED T.BDGS)

BOWYER E.T.* TOM 23.02.61 (RDNT X W’HAMPTN JAN 69)

ALLEN M.A. * TONY 26.09.61 NOV 68 (MOVED TO TWW )

GIBBS M.J. 13.11.61 (JUN 67 MOVED TO ADDIS)

TARGETT P.A. * 01.01.62 (SURP S’MAN X H W’COMBE JAN 69)

BATCHELOR E.B. BRIAN 01.01.62

NEWLAND L. LES 12.06.62

FORDHAM EDWIN ??.??.??

FORDHAM ??? ??.??.??

HOBBY B. BRIAN 07.08.62 (MOVED STEW LN)

PULLINGER M. MICK 03.09.62

BAVERSTOCK W.G. * 22.10.62 (RDNT EX FETLHAM NOV 68)

STOBBART R.J.F. * RALPH 07.01.63 (APPOINTED 1985??)

WOODS B * 02.05.63 (RDNT EX FELTHAM NOV 68)

WALKER G.A. * 30.09.63 (RDNT EX FELTHAM NOV 68)

DENTON R.S * 02.12.63 (RDNT EX FELTHAM NOV 68)

SAUNDERS A.* 05.10.64 (RDNT EX FELTHAM NOV 68)

POSSTANCE G * GRAHAM 26.04.65

TARBET R.F. 27.04.66 (RDNT EX FELTHAM NOV 68)

TURNER C.G. 20.06.66 (DEC 66 MOVED TO T.BDGS)

DARRAGH J. 24.10.66 (JAN 67 MOVED TO T.BDGS)

WATTS W.A. TONY 05.12.66 (OCT 67 MOVED TO TBDGS )

PHILIPS A.M. 30.01.67 (RDNT EX FELTHAM)

GODDEN M. 13.02.67 (MAY 66 MOVED TO RHLL)

KINCHETT M.J. 06.03.67 (OCT 67 MOVED TO T.BDGS)

WYATT L 24.07.67 (OCT 67 MOVED TO H. GRN)

STOCKWELL P. 01.01.68 (JAN 68 MOVED TO T.BDGS)

SLACK R RUSSELL ?? ?? ??

LEWIS P. 30.01.68 (RDNT EX FELTHAM NOV 68)

OGLE R. BOB ?? ?? ??

BLACK, R 08.04.68

ARNOLD C.E. CHARLIE 22.04.68

WOODS, L.J. 13.05.68 (MAY 68 MOVED TO RHLL)

RICKETTS A.W. ALAN 11.05.70

HUNTER M.R. MAURICE 28.12.70

SLACK R RUSSELL ?? ?? ??

HARRISSON J.A. BUNG ?? ?? ??

KENNEDY P. PAT ?? ?? ??

LeFEBOUR C. CARL/JO 11.10.71

TIPPEN N. NIGEL 24.01.72

ALDIS D. DEREK 15.05.72

CHAMBERS A. 07.08.72

BENFELL K.P. KEN 23.10.72

LAWRENCE G. GRAHAM 12.02.73

CAPELIN M.A. MARK 19.02.73

CAPELIN P.G. PAUL 10.09.73

SHEPHARD P.N. PAUL 12.11.73

WILSON I.A. IAN 19.11.73

REMMINGTON N NIGEL ?? ?? ??

ROMERIO FRANK ??.??.??

McCABE M. MAC 06.05.74

SHACKLETON I IAN 12.08.74

LODGE D.J. DANNY 12.08.74

JAMES M. MICK 19.08.74

KIMBLE P.R. PETER 27.08.74

WATSON B. BRIAN 02.09.74

WALLS K.R. KEITH 30.09.74

MATTHEWS R.H. ROGER 07.10.74

CANE A ALLAN 11.01.75

GEALL M.J. MICK 10.02.75

SMART G GEOFF ?? ?? ??

CHEETHAM MICK ?? ?? ??

MESSENGER ??.??.??

STAPLETON A TONY ??.??.??

FRENCH DAVE OR MIKE ? ??.??.??

BULLIMORE N.J. NICK 24.02.75

STRATTON C. CHRIS 24.03.75

RAINBOW M MICK ??.??.??

MOON B BRIAN ??.??.??

ANDERSON ??? ??.??.??

RINGE M.C. MICK 12.05.75

MARTIN PAUL ??.??.??

WALES M. MAURICE 14.07.75

TETI P.A. PAUL 04.08.75

OVERINGTON J.R. JOHN 28.05.76

GETHING F.J. FRED 07.06.76

ABELL R.M. RON 07.06.76

PETTETT N. NIGEL ?? ?? ??

EMSLEY R. RON 21.06.76

TAYLOR D.T.G. DON 13.02.78

GROUT S.R. STAN 29.05.78

EDWARDS S.H. 03.07.78

MORRIS S.B. 28.08.78

GOLDS P.G. PAUL 02.10.78

SARGENT G. GARY 09.10.78

FARMER A.T. TONY 09.10.78

MANTELL P.R. PETER 12.02.79

RODGERS P.W. 26.03.79

HARRIS R.C. ROSS 28.03.79

ASHENDEN A. 06.04.79

BROWN P.A. 06.04.79

FULTON J.J. 23.04.79

TWIGG M.J. MICK 28.05.79

STEELE MARK c1979

EDWARDS P.C. PAUL 28.05.79

WILLIAMS R.B. RICHARD 04.06.79

BALDWIN S.P. SANDRA 06.06.79

KINGSHOTT G.E. GRAHAM 16.07.79

HOWCUTT B. BARRY 28.08.79

McQUEEN G. GORDON 10.09.79 (EX )

POYNTION J.A. 29.10.79

SHARMAN J.A. 05.11.79

KIBBLE D. DAVE 15.11.79

THOMPSON J.C.W. JOCLYN 19.11.79

OSBORNE I. IAN 26.11.79

DEMETRIOU P PAUL 21.01.80

SPOONER S.R. 21.01.80

NEALL S.B. STEVE 28.01.80

BRICE D.E. DAVE 04.02.80

OVERTON B.A BRIAN 14.04.80 (EX COALVILLE)

SLAUGHTER R.A. RAY 06.05.80

FULTON D. DEREK ??.??.??

BLAIKIE S.R. STEVE 27.05.80

ROBERTS D.P. 02.06.80

GREEN J. JOHN 16.06.80

CARNELL A.J ANDY 16.06.80

BLABER A.J.S JOHN 07.07.80

COLE M.C. MATTHEW 14.07.80

ORGAN M.R. MARK 28.07.80

HAYWARD P.J. PETER 26.08.80

ABELL M. MAX 03.11.80

DOYLE M. MICK 05.01.81

HARMAN R. RICKY 13.04.81

SYLVESTER S. STEVE 13.04.81

AIELLO C.V. LENO 05.05.81

WALES A.P. ADRAIN 18.05.81

BULLEN M.D. MICK 15.06.81

COWDREY N.A. NEAL 15.06.81

REYNOLDS M.J. MICK 16.08.84

LACE D.J. DAVE 20.08.84

COGGAN A.M. 12.11.84

OSBORNE P. PAUL 03.12.84

LEWIS R. RICHARD 22.04.85

MORGAN D DAVE ?? ?? ??

HORLOCK C.J. CHRIS 22.04.85

EDMONDS C.D. CHRIS 29.04.85

SCHOFIELD T. TIM 29.04.85

BARWELL K.A. KEVIN 17.06.85

THOMPSON M. MARK 05.08.85

SIMMONS I IAN ?? ?? ??

SIMMONS S. L. STEVE 10.03.86

EASTON C.R. COLIN 02.04.86

PARSONS T. TREVOR 12.05.86

MULPETER D. DAVID 01.09.86

CHIVERS I IAN ?? ?? ??

CULL W. WAYNE ?? ?? ??

MAXIM R. ROBERT ?? ?? ??

HUGHES R. RICHARD 11.1186

IRELAND M.J. MATTHEW 17.11.86

HORAN P.J. PAUL 05.01.87

JACKMAN S.B. 13.04.87

VALLER N. NICK? 20.07.87

ROBERTS I. 01.09.87

ATTEWELL J. 01.09.87

NUNN C. 01.09.87

BURGESS I. IVAN 07.09.87